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You are welcome to join in a live Healing Service by conference call.

The Detroit Study Group Devotional Services Conference Call

Rosicrucian Fellowship Healing Service will be held on the regular healing dates.
To participate, call the following telephone number and access code:

(712) 451-6025, Access Code: 579887#   (see below for more information)

EST: 6:30 PM and EDT: 7:30 PM  

We recommend that you call in 5 – 10 minutes before the Service begins.

Please Note: Since we will start on time we may cut off callers who are late so they will not interrupt the service. Please keep the above phone number and access code and use it with any phone that has long-distance service.

When the service begins please put your phone on “Mute” (*6) so the service can be read without being interrupted or disturbed with background noises.
If you want to view the text of the service online or download it, it can be found at the following address:
http://aimpurpose.blogspot.com/2008/10/healing-service.html

The healing dates can be found by clicking on Healing Dates under LINKS in the right-hand column of this blog page.

Eliz ? Ever since John H began talking about you doing the Healing Service by Conference call, I have been meaning to ask you, “How did this all come about?”

Ed ? I have been involved with a couple of other businesses using conference calls with a live database of distributors.  On one of our conferences, we were informed that we would be doing a local conference call with www.freeconferencecall.com  I was told to go to the internet and type in freeconferencecall.com and so I went there and set up an account and used it with other individuals that I was affiliated with, and it worked very well.  So, I had the bright idea to do the same thing for my local group for the Healing Service, especially, – and the Sunday Service and also anything else that we might want to come together and do.

We had been, in the past, chain-linking our calls so that we could get a nice-sized group – about six or seven of us together which makes it much easier.

But now, no special equipment or telephone features are needed.  We just set it up with Freeconferencecall.com.  Our number is 1-712 451-6025 and our code number is 579887#.

Edie ? It is a long distance call, so anyone who calls has to use long distance time or if they have a free long distance or…

Eliz ? Could I use Skype?

Ed ? You could use Skype to call into it, and it would be a free call to you.  I’m going to be recommending, in one of the invitations I’ve sent out to people……. something on Skype.

Eliz ? On this call that we’re on now, are you incurring a long-distance charge?

Ed ? Yes, but I have unlimited long distance calling; I pay a flat fee per month, so I don’t need to be limited by that.

Eliz ? This was a great idea.  We are so few and far between—we are scattered so widely that most people just don’t have the luxury at all of having other members who they can physically get together with.

Edie ? Ed called me and told me about this free conference call and explained it, and he said, you know we could do the Healing Service with up to 96 people on this one number.  Years ago, like 16 or 17 years ago, we used to try to get together.  We would get together at Ed’s or at Donald Lynch’s and do the Healing Service every week.  Now, we’ve all gotten older (laughing) we’re on fixed incomes, we don’t move around as much, you know.  And so this is like: this is wonderful.  We don’t have to have a place.  It would be nice to have a place like Richard has where everyone can go.  So, this really excited me because I love the services, and this was something that I could do.

Ed ? Edie has been a blessing.  She is the one that does the reading.  She set up the music in the background.  She’s the anchor person.  We all appreciate her; she’s steady as a rock; she’s there on time.

Edie ? I say thank you to Ed and thank you to God for giving us the idea, the hook-ups, and whatever it took, because he opened an opportunity for me to serve.  And I am so grateful.

Eliz ? Yes, I really understand that.  Somebody sent me an e-mail just yesterday and said he couldn’t find the Moon Dates and Healing Dates in French anywhere, and he was concerned that others could not find them either; I assume this person is from France, although I don’t know.  So, he had typed them out in the traditional format and sent them to me, asking me to pass them on to Mount Ecclesia or to someone who could add them to the official website.  He said, I must say that The Rosicrucian Fellowship is very important in my life, and it is a great joy to help it a little, if I can.

Edie ? We did a little at a time when we first started; we didn’t have music, and then Johnny Perko sent me music, the opening and closing hymns.  I had to learn how to put it on a disc.  I had to put it on my computer and the volume was not very loud.  But I did something wrong.  I can’t play it on what I call my boom box so I could get more volume.  Anyway, for awhile we just didn’t have any music.  Now we do have the opening and closing hymns.

Also, on Wednesday nights we have a little study group going.  We’re going through the Cosmo. That’s also working well, using this conference number and if Ed was able to get this conference number, perhaps other groups can get one and do this also, for hooking up their study group or for lessons.

Eliz ? Yes, what time do you do the Wednesday study group?

Ed ? At 7:00 Eastern Standard Time

Edie ? We’ve downloaded the Cosmo on our computers, so wherever we left off, I just start reading.  If someone wants to stop and ask questions or make comments, we’re not in a big rush.  It doesn’t matter if we only get to one paragraph; we usually do this for about an hour.  And it’s really been wonderful, the discussion and comments – the repetition.

Eliz ? Do you know Alexandre?  Do you know who I mean, the man who has the websites?

Edie ? From Rio de Janeiro?

Eliz ? Yes, have you seen that he has the study guides for the Cosmo?

Edie ? Yes I saw one of them, but I thought, where was the first one?  I’ve missed some of them.

Eliz ? Yes, I missed some too, but I went back and was able to find them.  I can send them to you.  In fact, recently he posted them again, I think it was because somebody else made the request, so I can see that you get them.  You know, they really are good !

Edie ? You can e-mail them to me, is that how?

Eliz ? Right, I will.

Ed ? And to me also.

Edie ? I have been so incredibly grateful for the opportunity of doing these services.  There are times when Ed hasn’t been able to be on, because we do it ON the healing date, and those dates [day of the week] change.  Ed has many things that he does.  I said that I made a dedication to do this; I said I WILL be there.  It’s a wonderful opportunity.  I am so grateful and thank the Elder Brothers for this opportunity because I get so frustrated with myself, because I just feel so limited and helpless by what little I can do to serve, versus going out to Oceanside.   This is like a most wonderful avenue of service – I just love it!

Ed ? We so appreciate her, and I’ll say this.  With the classes we do on Wednesday, we’ve got every kind of person in there.  We’ve got probationers, students AND people who are friends who are not connected to the Rosicrucian Fellowship who enjoy this stuff so much.

Edie ? We usually end up talking about their personal experiences – relating to what it is we’re reading and that helps the ones who are not students of the philosophy, they haven’t gone through any of that.  I think it helps them to understand more how it works.

Eliz ? For people who have never been exposed to these teachings it must be one revelation after another.

Edie ? You know, Elizabeth, what we have thought is that they have started with this in past lives, because when you can talk to someone and tell them about experiences that follow from past lives, we can talk about life on other planets, spiritual hierarches, constellations, and they don’t bat an eye.  We know they’re ahead of the game.  (Of waking up.)  The reality of their own spirituality; they already understand that they’re just being reminded; it’s time for them to wake up in this life.  Absolutely, that’s what’s happening!

Eliz ? How long have you been doing this with the services and everything?

Ed ? Uh, when did we start, Edie?

Edie ? Let’s see, I don’t know.  We also do the Equinox and Solstice Services.

Eliz ? It sounds like you do the whole calendar.

Ed ? Laughter

Edie ? Oh, it’s so wonderful, it has to be since last summer?  Last spring?

Ed ? I remember, it was right after conclave, about the middle of September.

Edie ? September of 2008.  I remember, I thought, I haven’t read through the Cosmo since I did it as a student in the late 80’s.  My life took a big turn, and it’s like I went straight back into experience here; my higher self  told me to, “start all over,” and boy did I start all over.  Ed said, let’s do it on the phone.  So, we were just using our regular phones.  So, we decided once a week we’re going to get on the phone, and I’m going to pull all of my student lessons out.  We went through all the student lessons, you know – the ones you have to answer, the beginning ones, and then the ones after you become a student that you don’t have to answer.  We went through all of those.  We were doing one a week.

Ed ? Oh, we enjoyed that, that …..

Edie ? About the time we finished that last lesson – that is when this thing about the conference call came up.

Ed ? Let me give you some idea what happened.  I had a conversation with Edgar during late summer, because I had an illumination of something, and he lit into it.  He told me that the things in the spiritual world have a correspondence to things in the physical world, and I saw that so clearly.  I said, Edie, we need to start studying in the Cosmo, and it’s the third chapter in the Cosmo that spoke about the correspondence between the spiritual world and the physical world.  We started at the very beginning of the third chapter and we invited other people on that call.

Edie ? Yes, we went right on the conference call from our personal – each other – we said we can put this on; we can.  Let’s do a conference and invite others. That’s how we went from us studying together to a conference.  We started with the third chapter.

Ed ? You asked me something awhile back about how I started the conclaves?

Eliz ? Yes.

Ed ? Back in 1977 I became a probationer.  It was the summer of ’77.  One of the first Echoes I read had a calendar date of a conclave in Battle Creek.  I told the group back then, “Hey!  There’s a Rosicrucian Fellowship group having a conclave up in Battle Creek.  I think I want to go.  Do you guys want to go?”  At first they didn’t, but a few days before I was to go, they said, “Yes.”

They got a couple of cars together, and we drove up to Battle Creek early Saturday morning.  We got there just in time to, HA! – interrupt one of the lecturers; Michael Miles was speaking at that time.  Richard was sitting up there in the front row, and as soon as we started walking in, Michael stopped and looked at us.  Richard was sitting on a corner chair; he turned around and almost fell off – got up and came back to greet us in.  It was an experience that I had never had before, because,,,,,,,,,well, they took good care of us.  They looked after us.  There was about a half-a-dozen or more of us black folks, in the middle of a white conclave, so that’s how that went.  Uh, next day.  Virginia S who put this conclave on came over to me and asked me a few questions.  The first question she asked me – she said, do I know of anyone who would be interested in carrying on this conclave, because she could no longer carry it on herself.  I said, I’ll DO it.   That’s how it initially……

I went and talked to Richard.  I said, we want to have a conclave here in Detroit, and we would like for you all to come, next time.

He said, “Well………..that is nice……, but it costs money for lodging and stuff.”

I said, “No, you guys can stay with us.  You don’t have to worry about hotel bills or expenses.  And we’ll take care of your food or whatever we eat.”

He said, “OK.”  It was on.  The next year we had a conclave in Ferndale, Michigan, and we had over 100, pretty close to 150 people.  The year after that we had about 60 to 65 people.  Typically, since then, our conclaves have been in the neighborhood of 35 or 45 people.

Richard invited us to come to his conclave in Madison on Memorial Day weekend.  We had ours right after school was out, usually somewhere around the end of June or July, but later on we started doing it on Labor Day weekend.  That was best for everybody.

Eliz ? It’s kind of like bookends on the summer with Madison and their Memorial Day conclave and then you with your Labor Day one.

Ed ? I’m going to be doing a few more things.  I have a marketing system that I pay for on a regular basis as a tool where you can send an advertisement of what you’re doing around the world to over 2 or 3 million websites worldwide, so I’d just like to have your permission, if I can blast your RFFriends……..

Eliz ? Oh, sure !

Ed ? Okay.  Then, in another month or so, we’re going to have a conference room where you can view a website and that could be used for classes – like in Astrology where I could put a chart right on the screen and talk about the aspects or angles or even how to calculate it.

Eliz ? And so you’ve got audio and video on the computer – and is it interactive or just one-way?

Ed ? It is interactive in this sense.  We have a section on the left side, a column where you can type in a question that you might have, and the speaker will be able to see that instantly.  This is going to be available within the next month or so.

Eliz ? On that marketing system that you pay for on a regular basis; you’ve got memorandums or something that go out to a few “million” E-mail addresses?

Ed ? Not e-mail addresses, but websites.  This is one of my missions – is to spread the teachings.  Right now the numbers at the Fellowship are going down.  There’s got to be a way in which the numbers can go up.  We’ve got a new generation of folks that are coming in right now, and one of them that I am excited about is a member in Lebanon whose name is “Carlos.”  He goes by the name “LightRays” when he writes stuff.  He was on the healing list and I was assigned to do his chart, to make some recommendations.  “After that we became real great friends.  He has very expensive audio equipment.  He’s a photographer and does work in doing flash videos and such for radio and TV stations in Beirut.  So, it’s very exciting.  He’s a student member and is about ready to become a probationer.  He wants to use his talent to spread the teachings.  I’m going to be hooking up with him through a creative website to further advance that stuff.  I’m going to do that, and I’m going to further advance your website.  I’m going to make sure that your website’s in all of the major search engines around the world.  You will find in the next couple of weeks or a month an increase of the number of visitors to your site.

Eliz ? That will be really great.  It’s interesting to me, well, you see I was working with Allen, and I don’t know how to do any of this, but there’s something called DADA mail.  Every time a new article is put on my website…….you get the little e-mail, I guess you know, RFFriends.  So, my list is about 442 people.   That’s how many people get that little announcement.  I can watch the statistics and every time something is uploaded, especially if it’s something that people find interesting, it spikes.  Lots more people are coming in and…..

You know, it’s just amazing, to all of us that have one limitation or another, it’s like the world has opened up and now the only constraint that we have is our ability to gain the knowledge to use all of this electronic marvel stuff.  It’s like climbing a mountain every time I have to learn something new.

Ed ? But I love it and I eat it up, so this is how we are all connected.  We all have certain talents.  I don’t have the audio-video talent of Carlos; I don’t even have that kind of professional equipment, but in my own way I do what I love doing.  We all have our talents, and I am using them, because I am driven to spread the teachings to as many people as I possibly can on this planet.  Edie is driven to be the spokesperson for us, and she’s an excellent one.  We all are committed.  And I love your website; I just – I can’t stay on for too long, I just like to maximize my time with getting in and out of stuff as quickly as possible.

Edie ? It’s so wonderful to be able to read and now even listen to Richard.  What was done at the Winter School, like I say, I don’t have the resources to – I have never had the resources to travel.  I would have loved through all the years all the schools at Oceanside.  I’ve never been able to attend any of them; and now to be able to read or listen to these lectures – It is so-o-o wonderful.   Thank you, Elizabeth, for making that available to us.

Eliz ? Yes, I just thought that it should be made available to more people.  We’ve had the privilege – it’s been so long that we’ve had this privilege that we just take it for granted.  We don’t even value it like we should which is just so crazy here.

Edie ? Yes, when he asked if we would want him to come here and hold – like a school, both my hands shot up, and he came, but it’s just so difficult when you don’t have a place.  Like Richard has his place, his store, but we don’t have that.  So, there was this and that going on, and he wasn’t able to come back.  We did it in someone’s home.  It was just an apartment; it was just difficult.   The last time he came here, he said “you should come out to Oceanside.  We’re doing classes there now.”

I said, “I know, but I don’t have the resources to travel.”  So, yes, to have them here now it’s just wonderful.  I mean your site again is just opening up, spreading the teachings, because we’re getting the schools and everything, from Oceanside and from Madison.

Eliz ? Isn’t it wonderful.  It’s something we’ve been waiting for, for a long time – I don’t think we knew we were waiting for it, but that capability came and, boy, we have to take advantage.

Edie ? Since the 100-year anniversary, and some months before that, it’s almost like the Phoenix rising out of the ashes.

Eliz ? Isn’t it?!

Ed ? I like that.

Edie ? It’s like we’ve been given a new impulse; new thoughts; new ideas.  It’s like, okay, now we’re going to go forward.  And as you know, people have made remarks about Oceanside and about how it has gone down, and about how it was when Max Heindel was here, and you know —-[emotionally] —- there’s a Temple in all Jerusalem in the ethers…… (and now here goes the heart) and now that’s where the wars are, and it’s like this struggle is going on between the black and white brotherhoods.  Wherever the white brotherhood is strongest, the black brotherhood will be there.  But light is greater than darkness, and if we add our heart’s love to radiate with the Elder Brothers at midnight, or anytime, the sooner we will have peace on earth.

Eliz ? So many members have got this great sensitivity.  If you’ve got that kind of sensitivity without having a lot of positivity along with it, it’s like you can be led around like a marionette, and the evil forces have a field day with you.

Edie ? That’s where we need to send love and light to our brothers and sisters to reinforce their good, and this is how we’re being strengthened.

Eliz ? And this is what we need to help everyone to understand – what has been happening over a hundred years and is still happening.

Edie ? But it’s going to get better.  It has to get better, because many things are opening up.

Eliz –? Yes.  It’s a whole new world.  Just in the last – YEAR !

Edie ? it’s just happening – at the hundredth year…… and also like the thousandth year.   The service we receive from The Christ’s annual sacifice , the Archangels and Elder Brothers and others are what is giving us this added surge and impulse of energy to spread the teachings and heal the sick

Ed ? I really appreciate the closeness that is coming, almost daily, like in Facebook.  It seems like I have gotten a slew of Rosicrucian members that have signed up to be a friend on Facebook – people in South America – everywhere.  I don’t even know them.  Yet they become a friend on – I do Twitter as well, and I give the Healing and Sunday service – some astrological tips on my Twitter site.  You’ll be getting more and more curious people, each and every week, who are following me on the Twitter site.  It’s a brand new world.

Eliz ? It really is.

In speaking about 32 years of conclaves, Ed said: “Lately, it has been a lot of work on our core group, primarily because we are getting older and have less energy than we did earlier, yet we continue out of LOVE.”

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